維京傳奇 精彩的一段神對話

Ragner 與 King Ecbert 在講彼此的信仰的神,感覺有點像小孩子在吵架,Ragner像是頑皮不受教的小孩,而Ecbert則是像有教養心機很深的小孩,透過挑戰彼此深信的信仰來溝通,而這二個人都與Athelstan結緣,透過他來瞭解彼此所信仰的神究竟為何,也因此都對Athelstan有著極高的依賴,Athelstan就像是海邊的燈塔,牽引著歸航的船隻。但其實Ragner對於自己原始的信仰是保持著懷疑的態度,覺得神是人自己幻想出來的。

King Ecbert提出if God or the gods don’t exist, then nothing has meaning. 這句話的觀點與哲學家威廉·雷恩·克雷格(William Lane Craig)的論點相符。他在《The Absurdity of Life Without God》一文中指出,若沒有上帝,生命將失去最終的意義、價值和目的。

第四季 第14集 In the Uncertain Hour Before the Morning

Ragner lothbrokKing Ecbert
You have to kill me.
Well, I have to decide your fate. Yes
You sound like one of our gods.
Well, I’m not a god. God forbid.
The seer told me that I am fated to die the day the blind man sees me. But you…you have to kill me.
Must we talk of death?
What if your God does not exist?
My dear friend, what are you talking about?
Your God, my gods, what if they don’t exist?
Well, if God or the gods don’t exist, then nothing has meaning.
Or everything has meaning.
What on earth does that mean?
What do you need your God?
Well, if there were no gods, then anyone could do anything, and nothing would matter.
You could do as you liked, and nothing would be real, and nothing would have meaning or value.
So, even if the gods don’t exist, it’s still necessary to have them.
If they don’t exist, then they don’t exist. We have to live with it.
Ah, yes, but you don’t. You don’t live with it. You only think of death. You only think of Valhalla.
And all you think about is heaven! Which seems like a ridiculous place where everybody is always happy.
Valhalla is ridiculous! All the dead warriors get to fight again in the courtyard each morning, and kill each other again. And then they all have supper together.
Then they are both ridiculous.

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